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Problem 5.2.15 (Generators of a subgroup of $Z_8 \times Z_4$)

Let G = ⟨ x ⟩ × ⟨ y ⟩ where | x | = 8 and | y | = 4 .

(a)
Find all pairs a , b in G such that G = ⟨ a ⟩ × ⟨ b ⟩ (where a and b are expressed in terms of x and y ).
(b)
Let H = ⟨ x 2 y , y 2 ⟩ ≃ Z 4 × Z 2 . Prove that there are no elements a and b of G such that G = ⟨ a ⟩ × ⟨ b ⟩ and H = ⟨ a 2 ⟩ × ⟨ b 2 ⟩ (i.e., one cannot pick direct products generators for G in such a way that some powers of these are direct product generators for H ).

Answers

Proof.

By hypothesis

G = ⟨ x ⟩ × ⟨ y ⟩ ≃ Z 8 × Z 4 ,

(a)
Then G = ⟨ a ⟩ × ⟨ b ⟩ ⟺ ⟨ x ⟩ × ⟨ y ⟩ = ⟨ a ⟩ × ⟨ b ⟩ ⟺ ⟨ x ⟩ = ⟨ a ⟩  and  ⟨ y ⟩ = ⟨ b ⟩ ⟺ a = x k  and  b = y l  where  k , l ≢ 0 ( 𝑚𝑜𝑑 2 ) .

There are 8 solutions:

( x , y ) , ( x , y 3 ) , ( x 3 , y ) , ( x 3 , y 3 ) , ( x 5 , y ) , ( x 5 , y 3 ) , ( x 7 , y ) , ( x 7 , y 3 ) .

Note: if we search the pairs ( a , b ) such that G ≃ ⟨ a ⟩ × ⟨ b ⟩ is the internal product of ⟨ a ⟩ and ⟨ b ⟩ , we find 2 × 112 = 224 solutions.

(b)
Since y 2 ∉ ⟨ x 2 y ⟩ = { 1 , x 2 y , x 4 y 2 , x 6 y 3 } , then ⟨ x 2 y ⟩ ∩ ⟨ y 2 ⟩ = { 1 } , therefore H = ⟨ x 2 y , y 2 ⟩ = ⟨ x 2 y ⟩ ⋅ ⟨ y 2 ⟩ ≃ Z 4 × Z 2 .

We prove that there are no elements a and b of G such that G = ⟨ a ⟩ × ⟨ b ⟩ and H = ⟨ a 2 ⟩ × ⟨ b 2 ⟩ .

If H = ⟨ x 2 y ⟩ × ⟨ y 2 ⟩ = ⟨ a 2 ⟩ × ⟨ b 2 ⟩ , then

⟨ x 2 y ⟩ = ⟨ a 2 ⟩ and ⟨ y 2 ⟩ = ⟨ b 2 ⟩ .

We write a = x k y l and b = x m y n , where 0 ≤ k < 8 , 0 ≤ l < 4 , 0 ≤ m < 8 , 0 ≤ n < 4 . Then ⟨ x 2 y ⟩ = ⟨ a 2 ⟩ implies x 2 y = ( x 2 k y 2 l ) λ = x 2 𝑘𝜆 y 2 𝑙𝜆 , thus y = y 2 𝑙𝜆 for some integer λ , so 1 ≡ 2 𝑙𝜆 ( 𝑚𝑜𝑑 4 ) . But this congruence implies 2 ∣ 1 , which is false, so H ≠ ⟨ a 2 ⟩ × ⟨ b 2 ⟩ . □

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