Exercise 19.6

Let x 1 , x 2 , be a sequence of the points of the product space X α . Show that this sequence converges to the point x if and only if the sequence π α ( x 1 ) , π α ( x 2 ) , converges to π α ( x ) for each α . Is this fact true if one uses the box topology instead of the product topology?

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Proof. Suppose { x i } x , and fix some index γ . Then, for any neighborhood U γ π γ ( x ) , letting U = U α where U α = X α for all α γ , there exists N such that x i U for all i N , and so π γ ( x i ) π γ ( U ) = U γ for all i N , i.e., { π γ ( x i ) } π γ ( x ) . Note that this direction does not depend on the topology being the product or box topology.

In the other direction, suppose { π α ( x i ) } π α ( x ) for all α . We take an arbitrary neighborhood V of x X α ; it then contains a basis element of X α containing x , which is a product of open sets U α . In the case of the product topology, there then exist only finite U α X α , and for these open sets there exist N α such that π α ( x i ) U α for all i N α for each α . N α = 1 works for all other α . Thus, we can take N = max ( N α ) ; then, x i U α V for all i N .

We construct a counterexample for this direction in the case of the box topology. Let be the box topology on the product of copies of indexed by , and let

x i : = ( 1 i , 1 i , 1 i , ) .

Then, for each α , { π α ( x i ) } ( 0 , 0 , 0 , ) = : x , but this sequence does not converge in the box topology, for the open set

i ( 1 i , 1 i ) = ( 1 , 1 ) × ( 1 2 , 1 2 ) × ( 1 3 , 1 3 ) ×

in the box topology contains x = ( 0 , 0 , 0 , ) , but does not contain any x i . □

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2021-12-21 18:36
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Proof. (⇒) First suppose that the sequence x1,x2, converges to x and consider any β. Also suppose that U is any neighborhood of πβ(x). Define

Ba = { U α = β X ααβ

so that B = Bα is a basis element of Xα since each Bα is open. Note that B is a basis element of both the box and product topologies since possibly BαXα for only one α (i.e. for α = β). We also clearly have that x B so that B is a neighborhood of x in Xα. Since the sequence x1,x2, converges to x, we have that there is an N + where xn B for all n N. So consider any such n N so that xn B = Bα. Hence πα(xn) Bα for all α, and in particular πβ(xn) Bβ = U. This suffices to show that the sequence πβ(x1),πβ(x2), converges to πβ(x) as desired since U was an arbitrary neighborhood.

(⇐) Now suppose that the sequence πα(x1),πα(x2), converges to πα(x) for every α. Let U be any neighborhood of x in Xα. Then there is a basis element B = Uα of Xα where x B and B U. Since Xα is the product topology, each Uα is open but only a finite number of them are different from Xα. Suppose then that J is the index set of α and that I J is the finite subset where Uα = Xα for all αI.

Then for any β I we have that πβ(x) Uβ since x B = Uα, hence Uβ is a neighborhood of πβ(x). Then, since πβ(x1),πβ(x2), converges to πβ(x), there is an Nβ + where πβ(xn) Uβ for all n Nβ. So let N = max αINα, noting that this exists since I is finite. Consider any n N and any α J. If α I then we have that n N Nα so that πα(xn) Uα. If αJ then of course we have that πa(xn) Xα = Uα. Hence either way we have that πα(xn) Uα so that xn Uα = B and hence also xn U since B U. Since n N was arbitrary and U was an arbitrary neighborhood of x, this shows that x1,x2, converges to x as desired. □

As noted there, the forward direction of the preceding proof works for the product or the box topology. However, the reverse direction was proved only for the product topology, with the critical point being where we took max αINα, which was only guaranteed to exist since I is finite in the product topology. The provides a hint as to how to construct a counterexample that proves that this direction is not generally true for the box topology.

Proof. Define

xij = { 1 j i 1 jij > i

for i,j +. Now define a sequence x1,x2, in i+ = ω by πi(xj) = xij. With the box topology on ω we claim that each coordinate sequence πi(x1),πi(x2), converges to 0 but that the sequence x1,x2, does not converge to the point 0 = (0,0,).

First, it is easy to see that each coordinate sequence πi(x1),πi(x2), converges to 0 since, for fixed i, there is always an N + large enough such that j > i and πi(xj) = xij = 1(j i) is small enough to be within any fixed neighborhood of 0 for all j N. To show that the sequence x1,x2, does not converge to 0 though, consider the neighborhood U = Uk of 0 where every Uk = (1,1). We note that clearly U is open in the box topology since each Uk is a basis element of and therefore open. For any N + we then have that πN(xN) = xNN = 1 so that clearly πN(xN)(1,1) = UN and hence xN Uk = U. This suffices to show that the sequence does not converge, but it does not even come close to converging since there are actually no points in the sequence that are even in this quite large neighborhood of 0! □

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2019-12-01 00:00
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( ) Let  β J  be any index and  U β  an open neighborhood of  ( ) π β ( x )  in  X β .

Since ( ) x n x  in  α J X α  and since  ( ) π β 1 ( U β )  is a subbase element for the product topology, there exists  n 0  such that  ( ) x n ( ) π β 1 ( U β )  for all  n n 0 .

Then ( ) ( x n ) ( ) π β ( x n ) U β  for  n n 0  and therefore  ( ) ( x n ) ( ) π β ( x n ) π β ( x ) .

( ) It is sufficient to check the definition of convergence only for the subbasis elements.

Let ( ) x ( ) π β 1 ( U β ) , β J , U β  open in  X β  be an open neighborhood of  x  in  α X α .

Since ( ) ( x n ) ( ) π β ( x n ) π β ( x )  in  X β ,  there exists  n 0  such that  ( ) ( x n ) ( ) π β 1 ( U β ) U β  for  n n 0 .

Then ( ) x ( ) π β ( x n ) ( ) π β 1 ( U β )  for  n n 0  and therefore  ( ) x n ( ) x x  in  α X α .

The claim doesn’t hold for the box topology.

One example is as follows: let ω be the countable product of (with the standard topology on ) with the box topology.

For the sequence ( x n ) = ( n , n , ) , we have that each component converges to 0 in . However, ( x n ) doesn’t converge to ( 0 , 0 , ) in ω because the open neighborhood

n = 1 1 n , 1 n

doesn’t contain ( x n ) for any n .

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2024-02-11 10:13
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